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James Weir
b.11jul1810 Glasgow
d.13oct1869 Paisley
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m.23jun1839 Glasgow
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Annie
McArthur
b.12may1816
d.~1849
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James Thomas John Isabella C William
b.21dec1839 b.26aug1841 b.03apr1843 b.12apr1845 b.05nov1847
d.25dec1905 d.1900 d.21sep1909 d. d.
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m.06mar1863 m.12jun1871 m.25nov1864 m.
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Phyllis catalina Elizabeth Margaret
Gray Hughes McMurdo
c.11sep1844 b.1847Ireland b.1846
d. d.1914 Ireland d.1910
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James George Thomas Margaret John
| gray | cheine alexander
b.15apr1864 b.02oct1866 b.28feb1869 b.16apr1871 b.10oct1879
d.1929 d.1881+ d.1950 NZ d.~1946 d.1882
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m.13dec1888 m.17aug1897 Sydney m?1892
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Mary prebles Christina (Crissie) James scott
Anderson ella McInnes Anderson
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James Mary | Phillis Douglas Muriel Alistair
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| First 4 children born Scotland
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Frances James Thomas George Phyllis
olive sydney william cheine | romsey aroha
b.01oct1898 b.05dec1899 b.1901 b.~1904 b.08jun1905 Dunedin
d.30sep1994 d.17nov1972 d.1976 d.~1911 d.1984 nz
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m.09may1929 m.1937 m.07mar1928 NZ m.1938
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Peter ronald Gertude bland May euphemia Clarence charles
McIvor Hamilton LOW Campbell
b.04mar1904 b.19dec1907 b.05oct1908 b.1892
d.1972 d.05may1986 d.13nov2002 d.1960
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1841 census source ED: 10; Page: 15; Line: 380; parish 644/1 Place St. James Glasgow, Lanarkshire Dwelling East Russell Street James Weir 25 Porter Lanarkshire Ann Weir 20 Lanarkshire James Weir 1 Lanarkshire
1851 census source Barony; ED: 5C; Page: 15; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1851_145; place Barony Glasgow dwelling Schedule 56, Duke Street 534 James Wier head w 39 Railway Porter Barony Glasgow James Wier son 11 At home St Johns Glasgow Thomas Wier son 9 At Home St Johns Glasgow John Wier son 7 At School St Johns Glasgow Isabella C Wier dau 5 St Johns Glasgow William Wier son 2 St Johns Glasgow Agnes Cherry 21 House Keeper Carlton Glasgow
source ED: 101; Page: 3; Line: 11; Roll: CSSCT1861_99 place High Church, Glasgow, Barony dwelling Schedule 11, 3 Glen Place James Weir head W 50 Railway Porter John Weir son s 18 Glerk Sayers Office Glasgow William Weir son 12 Scholar Glasgow 1861 census source Govan; ED: 27; Page: 3; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1861_110 place Tradestone, Glasgow Govan dwelling schedule 13, 10 Salisbury street James Weir border s 21 Watchmaker Glasgow James* Weir border s 19 Law clerk general Glasgow
| 1863, Marriages in the parish of Corstophine in the county of Edinburgh | ||||||
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| Where & When |
Profession | Age | Address | Name Father, Mother | Minister, Witness |
Registation |
| 1863 On the Sixth day of March At Ivy Cottage Corstorphine |
Signed James Weir Watch Maker Bachelor |
23 years |
10 Salisbury Street Glasgow |
James Weir Railway Porter & Ann Weir M.S. Macarthur deceased |
Signed George Burns D.D. Minister of the Free Church Corstorphine |
1863 7th March At Corsorphine William Duncan registar |
| After Banns according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland |
Signed Phillis Catalina Gray Spinster |
18 Years |
Ivy Cottage Corstorphine |
Alexander Duncan Gray, Bootmaker & Margaret Gray M.S. Cheine |
Charlotte Scott Witness & James Weir Witness |
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| Glasgow Evening Citizen, 12th March 1968 |
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| WATCHES CAREFULLY CLEANED, 2s. EACH. JAMES WEIR, PRACTICAL WATCHMAKER, 21 ARGYLE STREET, Glasgow |
1871 census Source ED: 33; Page: 17; Line: 3; Roll: CSSCT1871_141 place Hutchensontown, Govan,Glasgow Dwelling 213 Crown Street James Weir head m 31 Watch Maker Glasgow Phillis Weir wife m 27 Aberdeen James Weir son 6 Scholar Glasgow George G Weir son 4 Glasgow Thomas Weir son 2 Glasgow Maryann Anderson sev 18 General Servant Arbroath, Forfarshire
1881 census source ED: 33; Page: 18; Line: 2; Roll: cssct1881_251 place Kinning Park Glasgow Dwelling Schedule 81, 9 Regents Park Square James Weir head m 41 Watchmaker emp 3 men 1 boy Glasgow Phillis Weir wife m 36 Aberdeen James Weir son 16 Glasgow George G Weir son 14 Scholar Glasgow Thomas Weir son 12 Scholar Glasgow Margaret C Weir dau 9 Scholar Glasgow John A Weir son 1 Glasgow Margaret Gray MIL 58 Mother in law London Middlesex Frances King Niece 19 Teacher Corstorphine, Midlothian Hellen Greenwood 27 Domestic Servant Calderbank, Lanarkshire
1891 census source ED: 36; Page: 6; Line: 21; Roll: CSSCT1891_298 place Kinning park Dwelling schedule 26, 7 Olrig Terrace James Weir head w 51 Watchmaker Glasgow Thomas Weir son s 22 Watchmaker Glasgow Margaret C Weir dau s 19 Glasgow Margaret C Gray MIL w 68 mother in law London Francis King serv 29 domestic servant Edinburgh Margaret McLean sev 28 domestic servant Oban ArgylMargaret (chiene) Weir died 1898
1901 census Source; ED: 39; Page: 24; Line: 9; Roll: CSSCT1901_319, reg 664/13 Tradstone Place; Pollockshields, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Sct Dwelling; 152 Nithsdale Road Thomas Weir head 32 Jeweller Glasgow Crissy Weir wife 26 Australia Frances O Weir 2 Glasgow James S Weir 1 Glasgow Mary Robertson 20 domestic servant 1901 census Source New Kilpatrick; ED: 6; Page: 4; Line: 12; Roll: CSSCT1901_171 place New Kilpatrick Dumbartonshire dwelling Shedule 19, Thorn Road, Glendyne James Weir Jr head m 36 Watchmaker & Jeweler Glasgow Mary P Weir wife 33 Glasgow James Weir Twins 11 Partick Lanark Mary S Weir 8 Glasgow Renfrew Ellen Farquharson serv 25 Muthill, Perth 1901 census source Glasgow Govan; ED: 28; Page: 26; Line: 11; Roll: CSSCT1901_321 place Kinning Park Burgh, Glasgow dwelling Schedule 92, 46 Glencairn Drive James Weir head w 61 Watchmaker Glasgow Frances King serv 39 housekeeper Agnes Herd serv 20 Annabella Mcdonald serv 21
| Entry in the Registry of Births kept in the undermentioned Parish in the District of Govan | |||||||
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When & Where Born |
Sex | Name of Father |
Name of Mother |
When & Where Married |
Informant | Registration |
| Thomas William Cheine WEIR | 1901 June Twenty Ninth 4:30 a.m. Nithsdale Rd. Glasgow |
M | Thomas Weir Jeweler, Master |
Ella Christina Weir M.S. McInnes |
1897 August 17th Sydney New South Wales |
Signed Thomas Weir Father present |
1901 July 6th Glasgow Signed D.M. Renwick Registrar |
| Book of Births for the District of Tradestone in the County of Glasgow on the 3rd day of August 1901 |
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In 1905 the Weir family visited Crissy's brother Myles McInnes in Dunedin NZ,
where their 5 child Phillis Weir was born 08jun1905.
However as visitors the Weir family not found on 1905 voters list -
1905 Dunedin North, Oltago (23rd November 1905) Myles murdock McInnes, 48 Grange street, printer Blanch madeline McInnes, 48 Grange steeet, married
Crissy and Thomas came out on the Tainui from London arrived on the 20th May 1914
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MANAWATU Times, 30th March 1914 IMMIGRATION. By Electric Telegraph - Press Association - Copyright. (Times. - Sydney Sun Service.)Received 5.40 p.m. LONDON, March 29. Queensland is experiencing difficulty in attracting immigrants and is reintroducing assisted passages. Eighty are sailing for New Zealand by the Tainui, including fifteen domestics. Steamers bound for Wellington Tainui left london 3rd April, via Capetown and Hobart, Due about 19th May. Hawerea and Normanby Star, 14 May 1914 THE TAINUI, HOBART, May 14. The Tainui has arrived and will sail for Wellington at 6 o'clock on Friday morning. She landed 22 passengers, and has 176 for New Zealand. Marlborough Expess, 20 May 1914 Wellington May 19th 1914 Arrived, 10;10 p.m. Tainui, from London via Hobert. |
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| Weir children circa 1904 Frances olive & James sydney Thomas william & baby George |
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| The Sun, 21st May 1914 |
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| LATE SHIPPING; TAINUI, FROM LONDON. Late on Tuesday night the liner Tainui arrived, in Wellington from London on her fourteenth voyage. She brought a comparatively small number of immigrants, there being only 200 passengers in the third class. The outward journey was quite uneventful, and the roughest weather was that experienced in Cook Strait. "It blew pretty hard," said an officer, "but it did not affect us much." London was left on April 2 last, and Plymouth two days later. The first call was made at Teneriffe on April 9, and from there the Tainui was favoured with fine weather to Cape Town. At the South African port, which was reached at 9 a.m. on the 24th, 1000 tons of bunker coal were taken aboard, and the vessel left the same evening for Hobart. On the run across the Southern Ocean exceptionally fine weather was experienced. A satisfactory run was made from Hobart to Wellington. The number of passengers booked for Wellington was 176-157 of whom were in the third class. N.Z. SHIPPING COMPANY |
| Otago Daily Times, 21st May 1914 |
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| Notes from LONDON The saloon passengers on board the Tainui are:- The Rev. J. A. Arkwright, Mr and Mrs A. J: Elvin and Master Elvin, Mr and Mrs F. Ferguson. Mr and .Mrs C. S. Munday, the Misses Munday, Messrs J. and P. Munday, Mr and 'Mrs E. Peacock, Mr and Mrs E. L. Walton, Mr and Mrs T. Weir, Miss Weir, Mr J. Weir, Master T. Weir, Miss P. Weir, Mrs M. Mummery, Mrs J. Strachan, Mies rf.' Varley, Mr J. W. Wise, Mr J. Dewar, Mr E. J. Fooks, Mr O. Frnmerin. In the third class there are about 160 passengers. The Tainui' sailed this morning in charge of Captain Moffatt, and with Dr W. F. M'Leaa as medical officer. |
1919 Auckland East Thomas Weir, "Rostrevor", Cowes, Waiheki, Settler Crissie Weir, "Rostrevor", Cowes, Waiheki, married Frances olive Weir, 110 Carlton Gore road, spister 1928 Auckland East Thomas Weir, Cowes Bay, Waiheki Island, no occupation Crissie Weir, Cowes Bay, Waiheki Island, married James sydney Weir, Cowes Bay, Waiheki island, Salesman Thomas william cheine Weir, 3 Dilworth Terrace, Railwayman 1928 Waitaki, Otago Frances olive Weir, The Salvation Army, Georgetown, Spinster 1935 Parnell, Auckland Thomas Weir, 1a Pukeora Avenue, retired Christina Weir, 1a Pukeora Avenue, married James sydney Weir, 1a Pukeora Avenue, salesman Romsey Weir, 1a Pukeora Avenue, spinster 1938 Parnell, Auckland Thomas Weir, 1a Pukeora Avenue, SE2, retired Christina Weir, 1a Pukeora Avenue, SE2, married Phyllis romsey aroha Weir, 1a Pukeora Avenue, spinster 1946 Tamaki, auckland Phyllis romsey aroha Campbell, 20 Rukutai street, married Clarence charles Campbell, 20 Rukutai street, Carrier 1949 Tamaki, auckland Phyllis romsey aroha Campbell, 20 Rukutai street, SE2, married Clarence charles Campbell, 20 Rukutai street, SE2, Salesman 1963 Tamaki, auckland Phyllis romsey aroha Campbell, 20 Rukutai street, E1, widow Romsey moira Campbell, 20 Rukutai street, E1, Dental nurse Bruce alistair Campbell, 20 Rukutai street, E1, Maufacturer
Murdock McInnes
b.1813 Isle of Sky scot
d.1881 au?
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Christy
McInnes
b.1815 Isle of Sky
d.1868 AU
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John and 4 other children
godfery last child born Melbourne au
b.1839 Sky
d.13apr1885 AU
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m.11feb1886 St. Mary's Catholic Church, Young, NSW
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Maria theresa
Quinn dau of Bernard Quinn
b.1847 Dublin
d.17nov1899 In prison
| First 4 children born Young NSW 2 born Balranald
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Andrew Godfery Christina Emily Myles Ernest
john bernard ella nerney murdock joseph nerney
b.1867 b.1868 b.1869 b.1871 b.1875 b.1877
d.1910 d.1950 d.1938 d.1872 d.1928 d.1877
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m.1899 m.17aug1897 m.1900
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Lillian maud Thomas Blanche madeline
Thompson Weir Robinson
b.1870 b.1869 b.1877
d.1949 d.1950 d.1955
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Dorothy Godfrey Andrew Thomas william Violet Thelma
chiene irene myles emelie
b.1901 b.1901 b.1909
d. d.1966 d.1940
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Crissy ella's origins are a sad story;
Her father John Godfrey McInnes born 1839, came out with his family from Isle Sky in 1856;
Her mother Maria Theresa Quinn born 1847/8, came out from Dublin Ireland with her parents in 1853 aboard the Tamer, passage paid £8 per adult sponsor William Buyers
Bernard Quinn 37, Ellen Quinn 35, Maria Quinn 5
(also aboard Mary Quinn 34, possible sister of Bernard, also sponsored by William Buyers)
Maria theresa married John Godfrey McInnes on 11th February 1886
at St. Mary's Catholic Church, Young, NSW
John was a telegrapher and working in Young but later in Balaranld N.S.W.
They had 6 children, 5 living.
Around the time the last child was born 1877 John godfery desert Maria, we guess he went chasing gold up north, leaving Maria theresa and children destitute.
She and the children except one child which I think her father took in, were all in a Benevolent asylum in Sydney and then they let her out with the baby, why I don't know,but it must of being hard for her leaving her kids there, sounds like she was left to wander
| Sydney, Morning Herald, 21st June 1877 |
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| Coroner's Inquests-Verdict of Murder The City Coroner held an inquest yesterday at the Benevolent Asylum on the body of a child, aged five months, named Ernest Joseph M'Innes, the son of a woman named Maria M'Innes, who was a short time since committed to take her trial at the Central Police The child was taken to the Infirmary by the constable who found it there; but, notwithstanding all the care and attention bestowed upon it by Dr. Renwick and the matron of the institution, it never rallied and died on Tuesday. The jury, after consulting togther returned a verdict of murder against Maria M'Innes, the mother of the child and she was committed to take her to trial at the next sitting of the Criminal Court.- |
| Australian Town & Country Journal, 23rd June 1877 |
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| CORONERS COURT On Wednesday the coroner committed a woman, named Maria M'Innes, for trial at the Central Criminal Court, on a charge of wilful murder of her child, Ernest M'Innes, aged 5 months. It appeared that as a horse-shoer, named John Parker, was on his way to his work about 8 o'clock on the morning of Tuesday, the 12th instant, he saw a bundle in Harris's paddock, off Mary-street. The head of a live child was exposed at the top of the bundle. He communicated his discovery to Constable James Bourke, who, be- tween 8 and 9 o'clock, took possession of the bundle and the infant. The child was asleep, and its head was laid on a newspaper. It appeared too weak to cry. As the child was shivering from the cold, and was wet from the rain which had fallen during the night, the constable, be- lieving that the child was dying, took lt to tho Benevolent Asylum, where it was carefully nursed. At the asylum Burke was told that Mrs. M'Innes had been an Inmate of the asylum, and had left it with the child in her arms, on the previous Monday. Subsequently, he went to look for Mrs. M'Innes, and met her at the corner of Valentine and Ultimo streets. He asked her whether she had left her chlldren in the paddock. She replied, " It is not I that left it, but the man who was with me. " He then asked her at what time, and she answered "about ll o'clock the night previous." She also said that she left the child with the man to take care of while she went away to get some milk, but on her return she could neither " find the child nor the man. Burke then took her to the police station, where he charged her with leaving the child exposed all night in the paddock. The next day Mrs. M'Innes was at the police court, and committed for trial at the Quarter Sessions for assaulting the child. There was evidence to show that the child was in a dying state when admitted into the asylum, and that on the night previous to its discovery, Mrs. M'Innes was seen drunk in the paddock with a man who had his arms around her waist. The medical evidence of Dr. Renwick showed the cause of death was inflammation of the lungs, accelerated by the exposure. The jury found a verdict of wilful murder. |
| The Sydney, Mail, 18th august 1877. |
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| CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT. Before his Honor Mr. Justice Faucett. Mr. O'Connor prosecuted for the Crown. MANSLAUGHTER Maria M'Innes was indicted for that she did, on the 19th June, 1877, at Ultimo, feloniously kill and slay one Ernest Joseph M'Innes. Prisoner pleaded not guilty, and was undefended. On the 15th of May last, the prisoner, with four of her children, was admitted to the Benevolent Asylum, where she remained under treatment until the 11th of June following. About half -past 9 o'clock on the morning of that date she was discharged from the asylum, with an infant child five months old. Nothing more was seen of her from the time she left the asylum until half -past 10 or 11 o'clock at night, when one of the witnesses saw her near a paddock at Ultimo, apparently in a state of intoxication, with a child in her arms, and accompanied by a man who had his arm round her waist. Next morning, about 8 o'clock, a man going to his work found the child lying exposed in the paddock near to which the prisoner was seen on the previous night. It was wet, shivering with cold, and in a state of extreme exhaustion. The man who found it took it to the Benevolent Asylum, where it was recognised by the matron as the child which the prisoner took away. Prisoner was arrested, and was committed at the Police office on a charge of assaulting her child, by leaving it exposed in an open paddock. In the meantime, however, the child died from pneumonia and bronchitis, brought on by the exposure. When asked why ehe left her child exposed, prisoner said that it was left in the paddock, not by herself, but by the man in whose company she was seen on the night of the 11th of June. No witnesses were called for the defence. Prisoner was found guilty, and was remanded for sentence. |
Its a puzzle that when Maria was deserted she did not seek help from her father Bernard Quinn, who also lived Sydney, Bernard Quinn he went to vist Maria in Newington asylum on the day she died of phthisis 17th Nov 1899 aged 44yrs.
The 3 elder children were then taken to the Randwick asylum, the youngest child Myles Murdock McInnes was adopted by his Grandfather, Bernard, but the 2 boys stayed at Randwick till they where about 13yrs
Crissy was released a bit younger to her grandfather Bernard Quinn at the age 12 1/2
According to Randwick asylum Crissy was admitted on the 16th July 1877 aged 7yrs 2 months so that would make born about december 1869.
Crissy and Thomas traveled back to Glasgow, soon after they married but then in 1905 thet emigrated to NZ visiting Crissie's brother in Dunedin, they had one child born 1905 (in NZ?) but then went back to Glasgow and finally emigrated for good in 1912 with 4 children.
Burial Mortuary 1, Section 5, Grave 1206 Bernard Quinn, died 21st March 1900, Service 23rd March 1900, aged 76 Anne Theresa Quinn, died 20th July 1897, Service 22nd July 1897 aged 60 also Mortuary 1, Section 5, Grave 1204 James W Byrne, died 19th May 1876, Service 21st May 1876 aged 15
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In Loving Memory of JAMES BYRNE Beloved stepson of Bernard Quinn died 19/5/1876 aged 15 years and 5 months May his Soul rest in Peace also ANNIE THERESA QUINN Beloved wife of Bernard Quinn And dearly beloved mother of the above, Aged 60 years. May her Soul rest in Peace. Erected by her beloved Husband and fond Daughters. |
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